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PEOPLE sank their teeth into the fluoridation issue in Yanchep at a public consultation last Wednesday.

Public health officials from the Fluoridation of Public Water Supplies Advisory Committee held a forum to gauge public opinion on the possibility of fluoridating the water supply to Yanchep and Two Rocks.

Fewer than 30 residents and people from other parts of Perth who were campaigning against fluoridation attended the meeting at Yanchep Community Centre, expressing opposition to the scheme that aims to reduce dental decay.

Residents made comments and asked questions about potential health side effects of fluoridation, health benefits, costs, concern about mass medication, who benefits financially and that they were happy with water as it was.

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” one resident said.

“When are you planning to do this and how much will it cost?” another asked.

Committee chair Richard Lugg told residents the process for recommending whether or not an area should be fluoridated included gathering public comments, which would be included in a report to Health Minister Kim Hames.

“It’s no doubt we’ve got a message out of this loud and clear,” Dr Lugg said. “There’s a lot of opposition in this room.”

Dr Lugg said it was unlikely a recommendation would be made before next year, with the public invited to submit comments. He took questions about the costs on notice.

Perth Fluoride Free founder James Fairbairn attended the meeting and provided information about studies into possible side effects of fluoridation, such as fluorosis of teeth and bones and lowered IQs.

Two women who have started a petition against fluoridation also attended, saying they hoped to gather 3000 signatures before submitting it to the health and water ministers and pushing for an end to fluoridation throughout Perth.

“Preferably I would like to look after my own orifice,” one woman said.

“People who want fluoride can go to the pharmacy and get fluoride tablets.”

The two towns do not have fluoride because they used to have an independent water supply to the rest of Perth.

The committee has recently been looking at the unfluoridated water supplies which affect only 8 per cent of West Australians and assessing which areas could be fluoridated.

Formal submissions can be sent to the Secretary, Fluoridation of Public Water Supplies Advisory Committee, PO Box 8172 Perth Business Centre, WA 6849, before the committee’s meeting on September 19.

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I once heard that the only way to dispose of flouride is to pass it through a living animal.



Whata load of rubish Amanda speaks, in the UK people with fluoride in the water ended up with mottled teeth and the same number of cavities as non fluoridated, Fluoride is a POISON make no mistake and is responsible for all sorts of problems including thyroid, osteoporosis and cancer to name a few.



I've came from an area of the uk were the water was naturally fluoridated,how dare people say its lowers there IQ ,we have strong teeth,my kids teeth are fine,I've one child that can't drink glasses of milk,but can drink tap water.hes taken enough medication with out adding fluoride tablets to the list.We also lived in area without fluoride and we had to start using using adult tooth paste my little boy has hypo plastic teeth,I ve worked as a Dental Nurse and I say it's needed in order to help reduce the amount of cavities.My tap water tastes like Tcp it's awful I'm sure it's nothing to do with Flouride more like too much chloride and Phenols.

Colin Horace Phillips


Trillions of dollars have been spent in the last 60 years advocating artificial water fluoridation around the world. Yet very few countries adopted the practice and many of these have since discontinued it, with no increase in tooth decay. This money should have been spent on serious dental science, e.g. research into the anti-caries properties of vanadium, strontium 38, molybdenum, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium and xylitol, plus diet, genetics, ‘good’ mouth bacteria – (oral microbiological antibodies), and finally the ultimate – stimulation of gums to grow more teeth, – tissue engineering. The harmful implications of poor nutrition as well as the damaging effects of lead, (old roofs and solder on rainwater tanks) Copper, Cadmium, Fluorides, Aluminium, Arsenic, * Beryllium, Chromium, Iron, Mercury, and Nickel have been virtually ignored.

Colin Bishop


I live in the North Burnett Regional Council area - actually in Mundubbera Qld - We are fighting the Council because they have meekly said yes to our Dictator Anna Bligh. There has been no consultation with the people, I believe that they are under instruction not to talk with us!

What really annoys me is the people here do not drink town water as it is foul - they all have rain water tanks. This means that 100% of fluoridated water will be returned to the Burnett river - I hope that our fish, citrus orchards (we are the citrus capital) and other horticultural/agricultural inustries are able to exist on "optimally fluoridated" environmentally unfriendly pollution?

Meanwhile our roads go unrepaired due to a shortage of money?

I have a mail from our own (Ill)Health Department saying that fluoride will not repaired decayed teeth - happy to provide a copy because they would rather I did not publish it!



Anyone care to link to these so called "peer reviewed" papers showing the lowering of IQ? What journals are they in? When were they published? and what was the acceptance rate?

Golda Starr


Check out this recent study summarized at http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-fluoride-cavities-skin-teeth.html:
"In a study that the authors describe as lending credence to the idiom, "by the skin of your teeth," scientists are reporting that the protective shield fluoride forms on teeth is up to 100 times thinner than previously believed. It raises questions about how this renowned cavity-fighter really works and could lead to better ways of protecting teeth from decay, the scientists suggest. Their study appears in ACS's journal Langmuir."

Fluoride's NOT what they told us in years past. It does not protect the enamel on teeth. It causes dental fluorosis which is actually DAMAGED teeth.

It's time to stop believing this "it's good for your teeth" nonsense. It's time to do some of our own research.

Bill Kilvert


Congratulations to the people of Yanchep & Two Rocks for opposing the Government's proposal to fluoridate your water supply. Be prepared for a long and hard fight as they will lie to you every step of the way if they are anything like the Queensland government.

Fluoride is not just about teeth - It is a whole of body "bad" experience.

Best of luck, Bill Kilvert, Cairns, Queensland.

Sonya Mac


Fluoride is the only chemical added to drinking water for the purpose of medication (to apparently prevent tooth decay). All other chemicals are added to treat the water (improve the water's quality and safety). Surely we should have the choice as to whether or not we wish to be medicated this way?? I for one don't recall being asked. Stand up for your rights!! Let the government know we will not sit by and be poisoned any longer. Join www.meetup.com/Perth-Fluoride-Free and have your say :)

Aida De Ceglie


Dr Lugg, agreed with almost 80% of all the negatives I put forward to him at that meeting. He even agreed, that when you boil fluoridated water you increase the dosage. Dr Lugg's comment was, " you increase the dose slightly" Yet when we tested the water, it actually doubled the dosage of fluoride you receive in heating up tap water. Whether drinking it for tea or coffee or when you cook with it.
He was adamant, they only use safe levels under strict guide lines. Although, that might be the case if their Conscious, has something called morals and ethics. The argument still stands strongly against Fluoridation nationally, because you can't control the amount people are ingesting each and everyday of the year..through, water, when heated up, through toothpaste, when showing, even your poor garden and plants don't like Fluoride!!

John Lusk


Bone up on the grubby history of water fluoridation. It is an evil policy.



We're hoping to start a family and were advised not to drink Perth water due to the fluoride content so we switched to having local bottled mineral water delivered instead. Best thing we ever did. If I happen to drink any tap water now, all I can taste is chemicals. It's pretty over-powering once you're no longer used to it. It doesn't seem right to subject the people of Yanchep and Two Rocks to this. No wonder they're happy as they are. Don't contaminate their water.

James Fairbairn


The application of fluoride as an arbitary form of mass medication is a breach of all recognised codes of medical ethics. It has also been linked to a number of serious medical issues (thyroid issues, lower IQ's, dental & skeletal fluorosis to name but a few) in over 25 peer reviewed scientific papers.

Its arbitary adminstration is particularly concerning in a city such as ours where so many people work in high temperature environments such as mining or construction, and thus drink far more than the 2 litre a day average.

We recently launched Perth Fluoride Free to campaign for its removal from our water supply (as has recently been achieved in the city of Calgary, Canada)

We are hosting a free screening of the Australian documentary on the subject, "Firewater", at The Flying Scotsman in Mt Lawley from 6.30pm on Monday 21st March. Please do come along.



Many large studies show ifluoridation is totally ineffective in improving tooth decay and it not only causes cancer, brittle bones, etc., (see www.fluoridealert.org) but is an absolute waste of tax money. People drink only 1/2% of the water they use.

For example, for every $1000 of fluoride chemical added to water, $995 would be directly wasted down the drain in toilets, showers, dishwashers, etc., $5 would be consumed in water by the people, and less than $0.50 would be consumed by children.

That would be comparable to taking 1 gallon of milk, using six-and-one-half drops of it, and pouring the rest of the gallon in the sink.

Can you think of a more wasteful government program? Giving away fluoride tablets free to anyone who wants them would be far cheaper and certainly more ethical.

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