Kicked out over a kiss

06/Nov/2012

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Meagan Bousfield and Freedom Bradbury have spoken out. Meagan Bousfield and Freedom Bradbury have spoken out.

A DATE at a Kelly Clarkson concert at Challenge Stadium turned into an unexpected eviction for Balga residents Freedom Bradbury and Meagan Bousfield last month.

The two attended the concert as part of a birthday gift to Ms Bousfield but were surprised
to be tapped on the shoulder by a security guard for sharing a kiss during their favourite song.

“We are great fans of her and were excited to be able to go, the performance was great and the
atmosphere was fantastic, with a diverse range of people out to enjoy an artist on top of her
game,” Ms Bradbury said.

“We were having a good time and when our favourite song began we enjoyed a romantic
kiss. That is, until a security attendant approached us, tapped me on the shoulder and asked us to leave.”

Ms Bradbury said she went into a state of shock but left the venue as asked, deciding not to
let the incident ruin what she said was a great evening.

She said looking back and having examined it further, she could reach no other conclusion
but discrimination.

“When was the last time you saw a man and woman escorted out of a venue by security for kissing in public,” she said.

“I can definitively say that is something I have never witnessed.

“We are in the year 2012, in a society that supposedly prides itself on being open-minded,
non-judgemental and offering a fair go for all, yet two women kissing can be asked to leave a
public place without the provision of any reason.”

Ms Bradbury who volunteers her time to work with young people dealing with diverse sexuality and mental health issues, said having gone through the experience it was now important she speak out.

“There were a high number of teenagers and young people in attendance at the concert
and it saddens me to think of them seeing us being removed and thinking it is OK to treat people differently because of their sexuality,” Ms Bradbury said.

“More than this, I worry for any young person who is questioning their sexuality and needs support and affirmation that it is OK to be yourself.

It could be devastating for them to see such a strong and public indication that homosexuality is somehow 'wrong'.

“I am appalled by the actions of this security person and sincerely hope that no one else has experienced this kind of archaic discrimination.”

Graham Partridge, chairman of VenuesWest, the operating body behind Challenge Stadium, said the organisation has zero tolerance for any form of discrimination in its venues and was outraged to hear of the alleged discrimination against venue customers by a contractor.

“VenuesWest welcomes everyone into its venues and we support a policy of equity and diversity
for our team, our customers and our stakeholders,” Mr Partridge said.

“VenuesWest’s conditions of entry policy ensures we only ask customers to leave the venues if they are involved in drunken, violent, abusive or other types of illegal and antisocial behaviour which affect other customers adversely.

“We are looking closely into this matter; if there is an incident of discrimination, VenuesWest will ensure the person responsible never works in one of our venues again.”

Mr Partridge said he was grateful Ms Bradbury had come forward and would be happy to work with her to complete their investigation.

WA Equal Opportunity Commissioner Yvonne Henderson said it was unlawful for someone controlling a public place paid or otherwise to discriminate on basis of sexual orientation, gender or
race.


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What everyone else is thinking

Kitty

08/11/2012

Naia, I totally agree. I have invisible disabilities (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome and Dysautonomia...the Unholy Trinity =P) and I've had trouble with security at events MANY times. They just have no clue and CLEARLY, their training is inadequate.

As for kissing in public, as a bisexual, I've only ever been harrassed for kissing women in public, never men. It just doesn't happen. Public displays of affection (not animalistic lust -- love) are a GOOD thing, whether they're between people of the opposite gender or people of the same gender. Those of us born under the LGBT umbrella make up a far larger percentage of the population than the current data shows, it's just that most of us don't have the courage to behave like couples with our partners in public. We're afraid that what happened to this couple may be the least of our worries.

The vast majority of people get that we pose no threat and just want the freedom to live as we choose -- it's the rest that we fear.

Cat

08/11/2012

@Joan Anne - how dare you judge these two girls when you don't even know them. I happen to know one of them personally and it made me feel sick to read your comment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing a kiss in a public place...whether you're straight, gay or bi-sexual...it shouldn't make any difference.
As the saying goes "know someone before you judge them"

Ash

08/11/2012

Can someone let VenuesWest know that gays also attend concerts...maybe they can relay that back to their security staff.

Tim Davison

08/11/2012

Security guard is simply following the standard and policy that has been set by our beloved politicians. If the root of the tree is rotten can you expect anything different from the leaves? And despite all the 'cooperation' of the 'investigation' I doubt any real justice will occur (very happy to be proven wrong, though). You might get an apology that the guard only gives because they tell him to or be fired. But I don't think they'll even find the guard.

@mum: compulsory counselling for the potential bullying of going as a same-sex couple sounds like a discriminatory and isolating strategy in and of itself - potentially designed to increase the apprehension and self-doubt of the students rather than supporting them. I would be challenging the legality of making it compulsory. If fear of bullying is such a significant factor they should be dealing with the perpetrators, rather than isolating the victims.

K

08/11/2012

I wonder where this bouncer originates from? Many migrants that come into Australia, come from countries where homosexuality is still frowned upon or illegal. A high percentage of security guards and bouncers come from these countries and perhaps need to be reeducated on this topic. So it would be interesting to know where he originates from don't you think? There are two sides to every story. I would like to see from the bouncer's perspective.

eima

08/11/2012

With the amount of hetrosexuals i see sticking there tongues down each others throats in public places like on the bus to work, in park, Local clubs/pubs even in the supermarket isle, what gives them the right. But not a gay couple. (must put in public affection should be kept in check, not everyone needs to see the passion some people like to put on display in public) And personally i think the double standards by some of the people in this world is sickening. And to the people who say that the majority of people think its wrong.....look at the world guys.....they dont pass marriage equality just because they want too. They pass it because a majority of the voters agree. So that says to me.....theres not as many people against it as you think.

Glennie

08/11/2012

Here is an oldie but a goodie for all those passing judgement "Never ASSUME...it makes an ASS out of U and ME!!!!! I have read 3 accounts of this story in different papers and nowhere does it say they were being sexual or inappropriate in any way in their kissing. If we are going to have the "kissing police" in every public place, then ANY kissing should be banned....including kissing partners relatives, friends, your children, hello kisses, goodbye kisses. Hey, let's ban all forms of public displays of affection including holding hands because some people may find that offensive too! My point is simple.. let's stop being so precious, ridiculous and morally outraged...it was a kiss between two young people in love! Well done girls for standing up to the ridiculousness of people who don't like seeing people in love! I'm 58 and find all loving displays of affection between consenting adults - gay, straight, young, old- to be a healthy and hopeful sign for the human race.

offal spokesman

08/11/2012

@ Mum - sadly instead of teaching the bullys, they teach the victims.

@coulinjo - I would rather watch two people having sex in public.. than having a fight.

@Lila - yes, i would let two young women/men/people kiss almost anywhere, a display of love and caring is a wonderful demonstration to all of society.

@Jody - Its is sad indeed that we live in a society so full of hate, there is hope that the next generation is more caring than the last

@dances well- Ditto :)

@ Sallamander, they did not seek attention, they shared a special moment and then were discriminated against.

@Randall - well said :)

SB_Australia

08/11/2012

I have zero problem with homosexuality...yay for them, they found someone to love, but I'm not a huge fan of OTT PDAs so IF their kiss was all sloppy & tonguey & touchy feely borderline heavy petting then I probably would have done the same thing as the bouncer...

If the guy kicked them out for being gay he needs his bottom kicked from here back to the 1950s where he would probably be more comfortable but if they were being too sexual & he would have applied the same standards to a straight couple then I see no problem here!

mum

08/11/2012

My teenagers were informed by their high school that if they wished to attend the school ball as a same sex couple they would be obliged to attend 2 weeks of counselling in order to deal with any bullying. My kids thought that this was so funny as their peers don't discriminate against gays and I had to explain to them that this actually used to happen. sadly looking at these comments we have to wait for the next generation to stop this intolerance.

coulinjo

08/11/2012

PDAs are unacceptable if more than a peck, whoever you are!

Lila

08/11/2012

Good on the security guard
What is this teaching our poor kids at what should be a family event
Would you let two girls kiss at a wiggles concert or at a primary school?

Jody

07/11/2012

I am lucky enough to know this couple personally and they are two of the most generous, community minded and caring people I have ever met. The are true role models for young women everywhere, regardless of their sexuality. To hear of this appaling discrimation against them makes my blood boil.

I'm proud of them speaking out, but it saddens me to think of the other similar occourances that happen every day without being reported. I hope this story makes people more aware and more likely to think twice before acting in such a intolerant way.

Danceswell

07/11/2012

These girls do not drink, work for charity and devote thier time to helping all living beings in need, there is no way they would have or ever do anything to vindicate thier removal from a premises...I'm sure many couple shared a kiss that night and only one was discriminated against, it's so very sad to not only read of this story but also the comments some have made.. It is no wonder we live in a society that is so ignorant, uncompassionate and volatile towards not only eachother but all living beings and the planet..one can only hope that individuals can learn and evolve from such situations and that the world will one day be a less discriminatory place where live and let live is not just a saying but a reality.

Jackie

07/11/2012

After reading everyone's thoughts on this issue I actually feel quite sad that some people have these views.
Kissing in public - Maybe if a few more people showed affection with one another there wouldn't be so much hate in the world. And Joan just because you don't think it's right doesn't mean that is the law.
No wonder why young people today have so many mixed views when the one's they are meant to be looking up to are so judgemental towards them. Shameful.

Salamander

07/11/2012

If you are going to put on an exhibition, don't expect everyone to like it. Attention seekers.

bellmoore4

07/11/2012

Neva mind right or wrong,they missed Kelly Clarkson,they can sort out if this was wrong and get an apology,but they cannot get that Concert back.either everyone gets stopped kissing in public,or anyone should be allowed,the President just said....only in America.Unless it is unlawful,it is legal.so therefore wrong for tat person to ask then to stop,let alone leave.

Randall

07/11/2012

This is illustrative of the our ridiculous social attitude - acts of love are banned from place or frowned upon and people think that they some how have a right to comment on who you should be live your life with. It's staggering that things like this are even an issue today - the old guard griping about people going around living in ways they don't approve of need to accept that where as once gay relationships were kept behind closed doors, hidden from view and kept off the street now younger generations advocate the homophobes and religious zealots stay at home, in the dark, feeling ashamed for the thoughts and the way they treat other human beings.

offal spokesman

07/11/2012

@ David Chambers, please explain what i have said that is inaccurate, or inappropriate.

Of course its about gay marriage, once the politicians recognise and legalise it, the minority (37%) of australians opposed to it, will be told in no uncertain terms that homosexuality is fine and that they must not treat someone differently due to their sexuality.

David Chambers

07/11/2012

@ Offal Spokesman. This topic is not about gaye marriage. Your statements are inappropriate, judgemental and inacurrate. Please keep to the topic.

wouterina Klein

07/11/2012

Whilst I do not have a particular view on Gay relationships i think the guard was right. I do not condone the passionate kissing people resort to in public . I think it is distracting and in some cases almost vulgar the way some couples feel the world needs to know they love each other.no matter who their sexual partner is.But I guess it is one more way in which to attract attention to your cause . Live how you want but dont display your passion in public .

yvette

07/11/2012

No Joan, I think you'll find many people think its discrimination. Plenty of people kiss at concerts. Maybe you haven't really been to many?
Even if the guard didn't agree with what they were doing, be it that they are two girls, or because they were kissing in public. He could have asked them just to stop, not remove them from the venue entirely.

ozcobbler

07/11/2012

Two words sum it up pretty well, "Perth" and "Redneck"

Fair go

07/11/2012

I agree, if it was discrimination and a some kiss was the reason, then action should be taken.

But thus is only one side of the story. Would live to gear the guards version of events also, and I hope this gets reported too!

naia

07/11/2012

Some of these security personnel have no idea what they are doing, are ignorant or have not been trained properly for their job. Some are new to Australia and do not know our laws. My son was told after showing his ID (he is 19) that he was not old enough to purchase a drink at a sporting venue. It took a lecture from other people in the queue to set the guard straight, pointing out that in this country it is legal at 18. This is such a basic element of the job it can only be a deficit of contractor employee training at the root of such issues.

Offal Spokesman

07/11/2012

@ John... sadly i don't think there does have to be any more to this.

Unfortunately there is still a part of our society who are yet to move into the 21st century.

As i said before though, considering our shameful politicians maintain their discriminatory stances, the uneducated and socially backward will continue to believe they have a right to judge based on sexuality.

We need to have gay marriage legalised now! to do anything else is discrimination.. and ILLEGAL!!

Joan Anne

07/11/2012

I think the guard had a right to ask them to leave. I don't think anyone should kiss passionately in a public place - and especially two girls. It might be 2012 but many people do not think it's right!

John

07/11/2012

Would love to hear the guards side of this as you have to think there is more to the story

Eastside Massive

07/11/2012

Considering that the guy who tapped you on the shoulder probably didn't finish Yr10, this doesn't surprise me at all.

Offal Spokesman

07/11/2012

Disgusting that in this day and age people should be treated this way!

However it comes as no surprise considering that our federal politicians dont have the guts and human decency to do what is right (and wanted by 63% of the community) and make gay marriage legal...instead continuing to demonstrate to redneck Australians that it is "OK" to discriminate based on sexuality.




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