Couple to defy city's eviction of pet cocky

21/Feb/2012

Comments: 59 readers have left a comment

Nadene and Ben Townend with pet cockatoo Monty. Nadene and Ben Townend with pet cockatoo Monty.

THE City of Belmont plans to evict Monty the red-tailed cockatoo.

Monty’s owners Ben and Nadene Townend have been told to permanently remove the bird from their Rivervale property by Monday.

City of Belmont chief executive Stuart Cole said the City had received complaints from neighbours that the bird was causing them distress and annoyance by its repeated loud calling.

“An assessment and measurements of the volume of the bird’s call confirmed it is unacceptably loud,” he said.

But the Townends, who have had Monty for three-and-a-half years, said the bird did not make that much noise.

They got him when he was just 20 days old and they consider him a loving pet, in the same way many people think about their pet dog.

Mrs Townend said the cockatoo made no more noise than a dog.

“He gets excited and makes a bit of noise when we get home, just like a dog would, but he isn’t consistently loud,” she said.

The Townends have a licence which allows them to keep a native bird, but the City’s local laws on health require birds to be kept more than 15m from any dwelling or public business, unless the owner has approval from the City’s principal environmental health officer.

“That would mean most birds in the city, even budgies, should have a permit,” Mr Townend said.

As a result of a noise complaint, the council would not give the Townends approval to keep their cockatoo.

Mr Townend attended a council meeting at the end of last year when he asked the council to consider changing its local health law on birds.

After taking questions on notice, the City decided not to amend the laws. Mr Cole said this was because the City had confirmed the bird was causing a nuisance and it would be inappropriate to change its laws.

Mr Townend said this process was unfair.

“If it was a dog they would need to receive three separate letters, with a diary of times of the barking, and I would be given an opportunity to address the problem before any further action like this was taken.”

Mr Townend said he had requested the City supply full details of the noise measurements to prove Monty had exceeded noise levels.

He also sent the City letters from three of his neighbours, who said they had no problems with the bird.

Mr Townend said he planned to defy the City’s request to remove the bird.


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What everyone else is thinking

maureen

16/04/2012

Time is a wasting. Monty needs a solution. Not a debate on who is right and who is wrong and if Monty should win or not win.

The majority of people commenting on this issue is by far Monty to stay with his mom and dad where he has grown up and where he is loved.

What if everyone that supported Monty shelved out $50 ea to Monty's parent's to give to their neighbour to get them to drop the case and to sign an agreement that the bird stay's.

I'm sure 5 or 10 grand could be raised pronto and might stop all this nonsense.
Before anyone starts!!! Should the neighbour's be paid this sort of money ??? Who Cares ! As long as a peaceful solution leaves everyone happy.

Maybe Monty's parent's should put this offer before the neighbour, before anyone sends money - I am happy to donate the first $50
And u ??
But. I would still buy the neighbour a bird to go with the cash.!!! haha

I know from exp that birds moved to diff locations - can lead to stress and die

Val

10/04/2012

Don't take someone's pet away as it will be very sad for the Townends and i won't trust the City of Belmont council again. How cruel this council is.

Krista

02/04/2012

well, give the neighbours an option - loud music and parties all night, or the cocky noise during the day. We have a sulpher crest, she's our baby and I would have to move rather than get rid of her!

Rod

30/03/2012

@Shelly. didn't you read all the story. Monty was 20 days old when they got him and was hand reared. Would have him left to die instead. Long life to you Monty!!

casey morris

30/03/2012

Hi guys hope all goes well with montt and he gets to stay with you. If worse comes to worse and u do need to get rid of him I work at a wildlife in bunbury and we would be able to offer him a fantastic home with lots of love and attention. Just a option.

Janusz

30/03/2012

Look the council has no leg to stand if the cockatoo chooses to stay. at the house there is no law that the council or the courts can do about it and if the courts take this case on then they will need to revoke every decision they have made on any other case in australia they can not give a cockatoo a move on order

bug

13/03/2012

You two and your bird have been on my mind since I read this story. You don't have any children so I suggest you round up all the kids you can borrow, as often as you can and let your delicate eared neighbor hear some real ruckus he/she can't legislate against! From experience a group of fist year violin students practising together, is good for them and will drive a nice choice of sounds to your neighbor! occassional bird or regular kids/musicans. Best of luck!

Lancelot

06/03/2012

The Council should consider moving the neighbour not the bird. Why do we allow the lunatics to run the asylum? Isn't it odd that no-one else has complained about the bird, and three others support the owners.

And if the neighbour's cat cannot keep away from the bird's cage - shoot it.

Val

29/02/2012

I will be careful who i vote for in the next council elections if Monty can't stay with his owners and is evicted.

Deb

29/02/2012

once i had to "catch" a pink and grey that was having trouble flying and was in danger

keep it short we found the owner - it was a young bird - to see the reaction of human and bird when they were reunited was amazing - the bird new the boy and loved him - i hope you guys get your bird back i know he misses you

to cat "lovers" keep them at home like we have to keep all of our other pets home

Randall

29/02/2012

Barry, I'm with you brother. I don't think a flak gun would be out of the question for those winged menaces.

Barrry

28/02/2012

I cannot stand the noise from native birds particularly cockatoos, there are far too many of them passing by my house. I live in a leafy suburb close to the Perth CBD and hate to hear the cries of black cockatoos as they pass over.

What about kookaburras, they too are the demons of the sky, are they there purely to torment me??

Birds within Western Australia have become a pest, they need to be culled starting with Monty…

Monty’s neighbour, you have my full support, get rid of the bird!

Don’t concern yourself with the criminal conviction, jail sentence or fine for getting rid of an endangered species…just do it!

Not Selfish

28/02/2012

Saddens me that we are living in an increasingly secular and selfish society where many individuals feel that they are above the law.

Ben& Nadene & Monty

27/02/2012

Thankyou to you all for your posts, especially the person who said we are a pretty couple, (I must try teach Monty to say that). We agree that Cockatoos can be loud but please remember we are talking about one bird here not an entire (usually large) hungry flock like you hear flying over, in your suburb. For those that don't think he should be a pet, that is the unfortunate thing about opinions, we all get one. Monty is a wonderful affectionate bird who shows no interest in other birds what so ever. If you are genuinely concerned, go meet him, He is boarding at BirdWorld this week until I can sort this BS with Belmont Council out. Ask Elaine if you can handle him, he does not bite (no one so far) and he would love the attention. If you don't think they should be pets that is fine, based on that we assume you don't think any bird should be a pet? or any other animal for that matter, as they were all wild once? We are not try domesticate them all, just keep ours that already is.

ian feetham

27/02/2012


i can guarantee that Monty the redtail has more intelligence than any
member of the Belmont City Council, as for Shelly i must disagree with
your comment, you are so far off base, but each to their own, i live in
in a Unit in a Body Corp situation with a Macaw and an Eclectus who
is better than any Guard dog, warning me whenever anyone comes near
my door, my neigbhours all seem to enjoy my birds epecially when i put
them outside for some fresh air when they start talking, but then again
i am lucky to have good neighbours, but you can put money on my birds
by 5-30 to 6-30pm calling out to come inside for the night, shelly you
mentioned wild animals just what do you think we are, we are just
another species of animal that evolved fifty million years
after and i say after the Dinasaurs became Extinct, which could happen
to us if another Asteroid colides with our Earth again. Go Monty.







bett

Jill

27/02/2012

I have a pet bird too. He is a Western Long Billed Corrella. He was a rescued bird as his previous owner treated him like a footy ball. If i ever had to remove him from my property he would have to be put down as its taken 3 years to get him to not be afraid of humans again. Yes birds make noise. Yes they call for their flock. Their flock (if they were hand raised) can be their human owners. Keep fighting Ben and Nadene. CoB try removing the whinging neighbour instead. hehe

Kendall

27/02/2012

Send Monty to a rehab centre where Monty can be part of a breeding program. Red Tailed Black Cockatoos are endangered, I am sure he would be a welcome addition to any breeding program designed to enhance wild numbers. Also, they are usually found in pairs or small flocks PLUS he is nearly at maturity so probably making more noise to attract a mate!

On another note - has anyone actually heard what they sound like? They are really loud!

Me

27/02/2012

You should let the parrot go. He'd be better off with his own kind, living a long life of 80 yrs. Just because you are a pretty couple doesn't mean everyone should be on your side. Red-tailed black cockatoos are not meant to be pets. Give him to a sanctuary, where he can learn to be wild again.

Marie

27/02/2012

I was quite interested to read this story as I have recently had a note from my neighbour telling me that my bird is driving them mad and can I please keep it quiet. I didnt know that birds were not allowed to be near houses and I never in my wildest dreams would have thought the council could have the power to remove a much loved well looked after pet. My parrot can be quite loud, I do agree but he isnt constant with his screeching, he tends to chat and talk more then screech. If he is outside when our local flock of galahs are hanging around he will often screech in reply to them but the racket that the galahs make (which I still find galahs screeching preferable to many outher common noises of suburbia) nearly drowns my boys screech out. I can definatley understand how you must feel, I love my Mani bird and it would destroy me if some one told me I couldnt have him simply because he is doing what any bird does. I hope the council comes to their senses and you get to have Monty home.

Janet

25/02/2012

I have noisy frogs in my garden, maybe I should complain and they will be evicted. What nonsense this is. In 50 years time it is likely that there will be no redtailed cockatoos which will obviously make somebody happy. Well done Ben and Nadene for making a stand against ridiculous red tape.

TrueBueAussie

25/02/2012

I live next to people that have wild birds caged very loud. Get a life give the birds freedom and stop the bloody noise. Residential areas are for living. Not a wild animal park. Same as parties, take em to Northbridge not in places people live and relax.

boyd

25/02/2012

Leave the poor people and monty alone , why do councils all rush to take the side of 1 winging person . The bird has lived there for more than 3 years councilers get a life and go out and do some good like catch rubbish dumpers . LEAVE MONTY AND THESE DECENT PEOPLE ALONE

Sasha

25/02/2012

WELL,WELL BELMONT CITY COUNCIL YOU SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY NOW POOR,OLD MONTY IS LIVING IN A CAGE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HIS EYES HIS PARENTS THIS IS AN OUTRAGE AND BELIEVE ME THERE WILL BE PLENTY OUT THERE WHO AGREE WITH ME ON THIS!!
I CANNOT AND WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS IS RIGHT, IT IS VERY,VERY WRONG SURELY SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN HELP??
COME ON PEOPLE LET'S DO THIS FOR MONTY,NADENE&BEN.

Ben & Nadene

24/02/2012

Big thanks everyone for your comments and we especially appreciate those with regards to Monty's freedom. He does live mostly in a cage. It was the biggest we could buy and we let him out as often as we can. We provide him with many things to chew, as destroying things is his favorite thing to do. The cage is for his safety as the neighborhood is full of cats. Which, by the way we have caught the neighbors cat (the complainants) at his cage on a number of occasions. Its easy to tell there is a cat about as he goes nuts!! (I admit he is a noise problem on those occasions) We have plans for a large size permanent aviary that he can fly in, we have more than enough space in our back yard to build it but Belmont Council Local Heath Laws (2002) states that we are not allowed any bird within 15mtrs of another building without a permit and this is the law under which Monty must be removed. BTW CoB has never issued a permit to anyone, therefore all bird owners in yhe CoB are breaking the law.

todd

24/02/2012

Good luck with Monty. Your complaining neighbour must be heartless to expect you to give up a loved pet. I will say hello to him when I am next in birdworld but I do hope he will soon be home with his family.

Stanley

24/02/2012

Let it roam free in the back yard where it can fly off and mate if it wants to or stays there to be caged in every night.

Martin

24/02/2012

For all you that think keeping a pet birds is cruel, let me assure you its not If kept in conditions you would live in yourself. They have far more intelligence than we give them credit for, some say equal to a 3 year old human. They learn like us and can be taught many many things. So when you interact with them ,just imagine a 3 year old human and not a bird.

Valerie Avent

23/02/2012

The Red-Tailed Cockatoo should stay with it's owners as it will miss it's owners just like people miss people if they go away.I rang the council and they said "no comment".Do something councillors and let these people keep their bird.Surely you aren't a cruel council and i have paid my rates for years with you.The bird will fret if it is taken away.

Wal

23/02/2012

The topic of whether or not a cockatoo should be a pet is a valid subject for another discussion.
The points we don’t want to miss here are:
Is the council acting in a fair & impartial manner on our behalf?
If all neighbours have complained repeatedly then perhaps Monty’s situation should be given the opportunity to be addressed.
If it is one neighbour raising concern then maybe Monty is not the real issue!
An open & balanced approach should be conducted by the council to attain a favourable outcome for all.
We encounter enough authoritarian control on the roads, lets keep it away frrom our homes!!!
Hopefully the council will give common sense a go!

nell

23/02/2012

What is in question here is not how or why this couple have this bird – rather the punitive action being taken by a local council under the guise of following regulations for the ‘greater good’ – how many complaints have been received? It seems they have quite a number of neighbours supporting them so where is the problem? Apparently Belmont is a place where opportunities can be created to live, work and recreate - A City of Opportunity – doesn’t appear to be any opportunity for Monty!

marie

23/02/2012

I wonder if anyone has thought that if you take Monty away he will fret and die. they have had him three and a half years from a baby, he doesn't know any other family and would probably get pecked by the other birds if he was released . it is too late now to change him from a human family to a bird one. if there are times during the day that he is a noisy bird. put him inside with the family and he will probably be quiet. perhaps he gets lonely while the family are away in the day. Help monty don't take away his family who love him. and have taken care of him all his life.

Monty

23/02/2012

Hi everyone........I am now boarding at BirdWorld on Abernathy Rd, in Belmont so that my parents don't get fined by the Belmont City Council for me being at home. Please drop in and say hello. Better still ask Elaine if you can get me out of my cage. I promise that I do not bite and you can see for yourself if I am a noisy nuisance.

Ben & Nadene & Monty

23/02/2012

Hi Everyone. Thankyou for your comments. Monty is our much loved family pet. I agree with all your comments with regards to having Black Cockatoos fly freely. Unfortunatlely Monty was born to captive Redtails and as sometimes happens he was not accepted by his mother. We were given the opportunity of hand raising him (meaning 4 formula feeds a day for many months before he fed for himself). He now sees us (particularly Nadene) as his flock. Monty can make a loud call, but be assured he does not do so very often, in fact his calling is far less than what is habitual for his species. The true fact of the matter is that we do have an intolerant neighbour that thinks everything is "too loud". We have written letters from all of our other neighbour's stating that Montys calling does not bother them in any way. As the paper wrote we do plan to challenge the Council over this, Monty is a member of our family and we will be defending him as such. Thanks for all of your support B,N&

Monika

23/02/2012

Let's pause a moment. How and why did this family get this bird as a chick? I as a animal lover would if found a abandoned chick return it to a Vet or Wild life park to re establish it with the life it was meant to be raised at. They are a highly valued bird on the black market and a endangered species?

Community Minded

23/02/2012

Let them keep the cockatoo if the cockatoo has space to fly and spread his wings. What sort of enclosure is he kept in???
If he is kept in a small enclosure or in a room or cage indooors/verahdah, then I consider that cruelty. The bird should be donated to a wildlife sanctuary or the zoo.

frank

22/02/2012

i Think you need more cockys, the more cockys the better, people need to get out of the house more and get a life, have people got better things to do with there time.

Sasha

22/02/2012

Well done Allsion well said, I too can relate to what you say about neighbours.
I can't believe there are always restrictions for every thing, I hope you win your battle Ben,Nadene and Monty because by god I would rather live next door to you and your little friend than some of these other humans that are around.
Keep the pressure on the council you will find you have more back up than any council!! PEOPLE POWER

Brian

22/02/2012

Being in the Belmont City it is different if you are being annoyed by dog incessently barking continuously for 6 hours at a time at least once per week. It is different if you work unsociable hours and try to sleep during the day with a neighbour with a radio turned up full volume. It is different if people down the road have "parties" 5 or 6 times a week extending to 1 and 2 am. Your case must be different because there is NOTHING the city can do abut these noise problems. Who lives near to you that has a personal contact within the city council and can be heard.

Valerie Avent

22/02/2012

It's ridiculous to evict Monty the red-tailed cockatoo in Rivervale from his home.I live in Rivervale and if it was my bird i would fight the council all the way too.You cannot do something like that councillors.How terribly upset the owneres of the bird would be.I will ring the council to see what is happening to Monty.What is wrong with some people to complain about a pet bird.

Kerry

22/02/2012

Surely the claim about whether or not the person loves the bird is totally irrelevant?

The issue is why does the bird call? It does because it should be with its flock mates nit subsitute humans.

For those of you who are simply looking at the human need try to see passed it and try looking at it from the angle of the bird.

Shelly

22/02/2012

Jack Sparrow, sadly you miss the point. Birds such as cockatoos are flock birds meaning they need to be with birds. They are also esentially wild, regardless that they have been in the care of humans for years. Whereas dogs are domesticated and will sunstitute humans for members of their pack which is what they do, birds such as these breed need other birds to fulfil their behavoural requirements.

Squawking loudly is one of the calls cockatoos do to each other and this bird has in all propability replaced flock mates with humans because the bird has no choice..and that Jack is the point.

The bird has no choice. Further its not about humans and the pleasure gained from having an animal near them, its about the mental and physical needs of the bird.

Whilst these poeple may address the physical they can never replace the mental or psychological needs which is to be with birds of his/her type.

christine

21/02/2012

Hello from England. It seems that councils all over the world are the same useless bunch of civil servants who like to play God, they have no concept of the real world. Unfortunately we have exactly the same problems over here. maybe they are all injected with the same unreasonable and illogical drug when they get these jobs. This sounds absurd, I hope the people concerned fight the council all the way with help and support from friends and neighbours, don't give up! This link is going on our facebook page 'all about cockatoos'

allison dixon

21/02/2012

to nadene, ben monty, i have a red tail cocky who is a member of my family, and a cherished member at that, i would rather have a cocky as part of my neighbourhood, that some of the neighbours, in particular are the neighbours that want to mow their lawn at 7am on a saturday or sunday morning. nadene, ben, monty you have my support and here is my e mail address relocator@iinet.net.au, if you need some help or information regarding red tail, white tail cocky'es and keep the pressure on the council. allison dixon

Kristy Bryan-Smith

21/02/2012

I live 3 doors up from Ben, Nadene & Monty - I had no idea what was going on until I saw the paper... I'm appauled - I rarely ever hear Monty & I spend the majority of my time outside! I enjoy hearing him as I also enjoy having all the wild black cockatoos visiting the trees around my property - the crows could use some singing lessons though...

They are lovely people & I know how much they love Monty, seperating them isn't in Monty's best interests either. The council is empowing someone that clearly has noise issues & no consideration for others.

I sincerely hope the neighbour responsible for this complaint considers that they have an extremely low noise tolerance level & retracts their complaint so that this is resolved quickly & easily. At the end of the day a lawnmower breaches the level of noise that is legally allowable!!

Madeleine

21/02/2012

We love birds and envy you your pet cocky. Good Luck, we really hope you get to keep this beautiful bird. Can't you find out who exactly is complaining? Would any other organization be able to help you in this battle with the council? Seems so ridiculous to have complaints about BIRD NOISE!!! Keep fighting!!

Jan

21/02/2012

I agree with Megan, having delt with the Belmont shire I can understand Nadene and Ben's frustration. We had a issue regarding trees planted on the verge of a new estate. After MANY threatening letters and fines the shire did a complete turn around and decided to remove the trees.......TYPICAL. Good Luck guys.

Adam

21/02/2012

This is absolutely absurd. I have wild red-tails flying around my neighbourhood, screeching away happily and I love it! But what should happen if some self-absorbed neighbour complains, will the local rangers be called in to issue them with a move on notice? Will I one day be hauled over the coals for harbouring raucous songbirds in my native garden? Heaven forbid somebody takes offence to my trilling canaries….

Charles

21/02/2012

Suggest a round the table meeting with everyone concerned to understand what the issues are, not what they are imagined to be, and resolution reached on the basis of compassion, public health and good-will. Rivervale is the natural habitat of the Black Cockatoo.

Rod

21/02/2012

Your bird is your cherished pet you have had for 3 1/2 years and you should be allowed to keep it.
Neighbours or people who complian about pets must live a lonely and mierable life with nothing better to do than to cause trouble in the neighbourhood.
I have two neighours that continually complain about everything to the Council. People who do not like living the Austrralian way should go back to their country of origin and never return back.
By the way i live in the country and enjoy the sound of birds chirping and singing at 4:30am in the morning. Beats waking up to an alarm clock any day.

JACK SPARROW

21/02/2012

To Shelly......by your reasoning all dogs should released to roam in packs around the neighbourhood and fish fanciers must release their fish into the rivers or waterways.This bird ,asfar as I can see,is no great problem and is well looked after,probably better than some kids in Perth....Leave the bird where it is.

Ed

21/02/2012

This bird has been brought up with the family, what about it's welfare in a strange environment it will fret let them keep it, council should not change rules to suit themselves.

skye

21/02/2012

It is too late to release the bird into its natural habit - it would not survive. Make an exception to the rule here and let the bird stay where it is loved and cared for. What do the council suggest is the humane alternative?

Trish

21/02/2012

Anyone can see how much you love this bird! Just a suggestion but could you take your bird around your neighbourhood to introduce him to everyone & hopefully who ever has complained will have a heart when they meet him or her !! What you said about dog barking in the neighbourhood & the procedure that has to be done regarding letters etc! Why are you not been given the same courtesy! I wish you luck :)

Suzi

21/02/2012

So on one hand councils are happy to cut down trees that are the natural dwelling for black cockatoos, and the other they won't let a couple keep one as a pet, which they have had since a baby and is part of the family. Someone has definitely got it in for Nadine and Ben - councillors with big egos!!!!

JACK SPARROW

21/02/2012

Leave the bird where it is,its not doing any harm.Keep the bird ....get rid of the Council.....no problem.

Polly.

21/02/2012

Welcome to suburbia, where the lowest common denominator prevails.
We had better stop children playing in the street because their joy sometimes is expressed through annoying high pitch screeches.

Megan

21/02/2012

Presumably if people are complaining to the Council akin to noise complaints from dogs they should adhere to the same noise complaint rules and regulations. Even if your dog is found to be a noisy/troublesome dog that barks loudly and frequently they give you a right of reply to rectify the barking by classes or noise collars etc.
If the bird is found to be noisy (which appears to be disputed) surely they arent to be told to just give away a pet? The belmont council proves itself yet again to be inconsistent and a bit of a joke!

Shelly

21/02/2012

Birds do not belong with people- they belong with their own kind.

Shame on you and all the other so called animal lovers who insist on denying birds their natural behavious.

Muzza

21/02/2012

Oh come on. This is a joke eh? Let this wonderful couple keep their pet bird. The sound of a parot in suburbia has to be a welcoming one. I am sure that any noise is only during the day. And what? Are we going to stop cars driving on the roads because of the occassional hoon squeeling their wheels or that noisy rubbish truck is going by. Good on you Nadene and Ben. I really hope you can get some sense out of the Belmont Council.

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